What some call the “real” first Thanksgiving took place over 20 years before near present day El Paso, when at least 400 Spaniards in an exploration led by Juan de Oñate feasted with the Mansos tribe.

But, like any good Thanksgiving discussion, there’s a thread of discord sown through that narrative. While everyone recognizes its importance in the history of North America, some argue that, unlike the feast at Plymouth, it’s not a harvest festival.

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